in fact, he has been used in that capacity by the obama administration. i do not agree with him on all of the issues. i was troubled by his attempts to negotiate with bashar assad, who was very little credibility. he first voted against the war in iraq, then voted for the surge that made it possible for us to rescue a failing situation. but i do not think he will truly for -- to truly make the foreign policy of the u.s. any more than hillary clinton really did. this is one of the most centralized foreign-policy positions of ever seeing with the president and a handful of close aides truly making those decisions. i think john carey will be a capable the plant carrying out those decisions. host: there will be a live hearing today. one of the nominees, chuck keiko, nominated to be the -- chuck heigl, nominated to be the defense secretary. what do you think about? guest: there is no question he has been outside the mainstream of the senate. do not get me wrong, his hair was them in vietnam is something everybody should respect and his many years of service in